Monday, December 21, 2009

A Little Perspective on Reid

Reid has now made the playoffs in 8 of his 11 seasons. Think about that for a second. He has made the playoffs in 8 of 11 seasons after taking over a team that had the 2nd overall pick in the draft. In 8 out of his 11 seasons, he's had a chance to win a SB in January.

Eight of Eleven?!?! 8 of 11!!!! Who could possibly want another coach?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not me. Never understood the lack of love for the big fella. Wish he was a little more fun like Buddy, but it seems insane to argue with sustained success. And he isn't Rich Kotite.

Ed Wade

10:04 PM EST  
Blogger David said...

He is a good coach. He is not a great coach. Don't let the nice win streak fool you. When the chips are down, crunch time, tight playoff game, he will struggle with effective play calling and clock management. He does it every single year. I like the guy and I will take the playoffs and tip my enormous hat to his success, but he will not ever bring a championship to this city. He just doesn't have "it". I try to step back and look at the body of work vs. the current set of data. Had they lost that game yesterday due to a horrendous 4th and inches call from their own 30 (yes pro teams should always be 100% on 4th and inches, but they sucked in that situation again) or lost the Skins game (which they should have) due to him handing a terrible team a 7-0 lead with a bonehead on sides kick call, are we all so excited at an 8-6 team? Maybe, but I dunno.

Bumble

10:45 PM EST  
Blogger David said...

Not that they warrant a mention, but can I ask if anyone actually still roots for the Flyers? What a joke of a franchise. I have never understood why they always get so much respect in pre season polls and such, yet year after year they put the same dreck on the ice. Never have a capable goalie, run an antiquated offensive system, always lack sufficient defensive play makers, pick up old players waaaaaay past their prime. This team hasn't won shit in 35 years, yet they are looked at as a "great" franchise. Why is that? Is it just because no one cares about hockey except a few rich guys that live in Cherry Hill?

Bumble

10:51 PM EST  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

TMG from 10 years ago wouldn't recognize the current TMG.

i can't believe it myself, but hockey has fallen below soccer in terms of holding my interest. it's basically dead to me, i find it unwatchable and never give it a second thought.

incredibly odd considering it was once my second favorite sport to watch. at least soccer gives me the world cup every four years. hockey gives me nothing.

11:08 PM EST  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

which coaches in the last 20 years were "great" in your opinion?

11:10 PM EST  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

Not me. Never understood the lack of love for the big fella. Wish he was a little more fun like Buddy, but it seems insane to argue with sustained success

i get accused of being an andy apologist, but you have to admit he does have his frustrating quirks.

one area i definitely have to give big red a standing-o is that he's definitely addressed my two biggest complaints about his offense from recent seasons -- lack of power running and lack of deep passing.

and how about this under the radar strength for reid -- he is very good at adjusting his style to suit his players.

duce, buck, and westbrook in your offense = 2000 yards rushing

the all-injury backfield (buck and westbrook) = dink and dunk passing offense

the all-injury backfield plus me-o = dynamic pass first offense

complete turnover of skill position players (with potential all-pros all over) = most balanced and dynamic offense of the andy reid era.

11:29 PM EST  
Blogger The Happy Apologist said...

I'd say Reid's a very good, not great coach. I really think this 8 of 11 # is incredible. It's twice what the "average" NFL team makes the playoffs. And you can't lose playoff games unless you MAKE the playoffs, which he does 4 of every 5 years.

To TMG's point, Reid has got to be the best pre-game coach of all time to get the results he does with the in game management that he does. Right?

5:44 PM EST  
Blogger The Happy Apologist said...

Hockey's for after football. Flyers always play crappy pre-Christmas and great come the New Year.

5:45 PM EST  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I never liked soccer until my boy started playing it. Now that he is getting pretty good, I like it more.

The sport gets a bad rap. Check out the English Premier games sometimes on cable. Even the NCAA tournament games this year were pretty damn entertaining, including the women's bracket.

Played a ton of (street) hockey as a kid, including in a pretty serious league, and always loved the Flyers, especially in the 70's. Stopped watching the Flyers when Bob Clarke treated an injured Eric Lindros like a stray dog. Never came back; don't miss the game. I catch a few minutes from time to time and based on those brief glimpses, it's obvious what is wrong with the game. The ice surface isn't large enough for today's bigger and faster players. It's taken the skill out of the game.

Basketball is another sport that has tanked in my opinion. I blame the fall on Sportscenter. Everybody wants to dunk and pose. If you want to watch the game played right (Larry Brown reference), you need to watch a high school game. High school basketball is still awesome.

With apologies to the fine folks here, pro football has also taken a major step back for me. The product is fine, but the incessant TV time outs are killing the game. It's actually become comical.

Here's how I rank the major sports right now in terms of entertainment:

1. Baseball
2. Football
3. Soccer
4. Golf
5. Boxing
6. Basketball
7. Hockey
8. Tennis
9. NASCAR

Anyone else?

(I still won't watch mixed martial arts)

Ed Wade

5:57 PM EST  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

interesting list. here's mine:

1. football
2. baseball
3. mma
4. basketball
5. tiger woods
6. some boxers
7. world cup soccer
8. formula1
9. tennis
10. summer olympics

7:53 PM EST  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

Hockey's for after football. Flyers always play crappy pre-Christmas and great come the New Year.

i boycotted hockey because i really grew to hate bobby clarke. like ed i learned that i just didn't miss it. i've tried to sit down and watch a game, but i find it's really boring.

8:03 PM EST  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

I never liked soccer until my boy started playing it. Now that he is getting pretty good, I like it more.

The sport gets a bad rap. Check out the English Premier games sometimes on cable. Even the NCAA tournament games this year were pretty damn entertaining, including the women's bracket.


i think you're spot on here. high level soccer is amazing to watch and the skill level at the world cup is shocking sometimes.

i think the biggest obstacle to soccer making it here is that the quality of the domestic product sucks... and americans are only interested in watching americans. unless we can get EPL-ish quality, it'll never take off.

i bought season tickets for the new team in chester but i'm not too optimistic about it.

8:10 PM EST  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

To TMG's point, Reid has got to be the best pre-game coach of all time to get the results he does with the in game management that he does. Right?

i think that has more than a smidge of truth to it.

8:15 PM EST  
Blogger David said...

You know, I never really sat down and thought about who I think is great and why. Good question. I'd probably define as "innovative, gets the most out of the least, manages big spots well, and wins year in and year out regardless of the turnover of talent". By that definition, I can easily argue that Reid is a solid 2 of 4. If I really think about it, there are big spot guys-Belichek, Phil Jackson, Scotty Bowman. There are innovative coaches-Urban Meyer, Sean Payton, Buddy Ryan, Dick Lebeau. There are most from least-Mike Krysewski, Jerry Sloan. There are win regardless of turnover guys-Pete Carroll, Bill Parcells.

Lots of names in here that are flawed in one way or another. Maybe Reid is in fact a great coach and he is just really bad in big spots when his primary game plan is exposed or isn't working. Maybe his strengths are just different. I wouldn't call uncle Cholly a great or even a good baseball coach, yet he handles big spots well and gets the most out his players.

Who knows. Maybe I am mistaken when this is taken in bigger context.

Bumble

9:50 PM EST  
Blogger David said...

My top 10 sports-some are one time events

1. pro Football
2. pro Baseball
3. College football
4. College Hoops
5. Wimbledon finals
6. Masters
7. NCAA Wrestling
8. World Cup soccer by top tier European teams
9. Tour de France
10. KY Derby

Bumble

9:53 PM EST  
Blogger The Happy Apologist said...

My Top 10 Sports would be

1. Pro football
2. Nothing
3. Nothing
4. Nothing
5. Nothing
6. Nothing
7. Pro cycling (started following more than TDF since US now has a couple pro teams)
8. MMA
9. Hockey
10. Golf

4:34 PM EST  
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