Monday, April 12, 2010

Eagles Draft a QB Very Early

You heard it here first. Or maybe you've heard it elsewhere already, but I'm saying it for the first time here. The Eagles are going to draft a QB in either round 1 or round 2. I know the consensus probably has them going D, D, and more D, but I would be absolutely flabbergasted if they don't pick a QB very, very early.

Reid has a QB driven offense. So while having a big o-line, RBs that can catch the ball out of the backfield, and down field threats at the TE position are great. Priorities 1 through 4 are having a top-notch QB available for each and every 16 games. And given the injury rate to QBs, you have to have a starting caliber QB as your #2 guy.

Now nobody thinks Vick is that guy so the assumption is they'll need to bring in a proven back-up to be that guy this year. I'm not so sure. Vick's not a guy you want starting 8+ games, but he's probably OK for a 3-5 game stretch which is about the worst case scenario. Kolb's not seen much action so there's less risk of him going down. Especially since he doesn't seem to have much injury history. Vick's a good #2 option for this year.

So that gives Reid a chance to draft a project QB and give him a year to learn the system. Then he'll be more than capable to back-up Kolb at that point. Or push him out of the way if he's not the answer. Either way they need a very good option for 2011 and the cheapest, best option is to draft it.



Blogger The Mean Guy said...

the eagles scout every qb in the draft every year. almost every year, they draft one of the qb's they think have a shot to make it if that qb falls well below where the eagles value them.

i think the only way the eagles draft a 1st or 2nd round qb this year is if a sam bradford type plummets in the draft. i just can't see them spending a high draft pick on a qb who won't be a capable backup for 1+ years in the same season they're making a statement of commitment to kolb.

i definitely see a qb being drafted to sit at #3 behind kolb and garcia (or some other serviceable vet) -- 4th or 5th round methinks.

9:33 PM EDT  
Blogger David said...

Lots of rumors about Tebow. I don't see that one at all-does not seem like an Andy Reid QB. They need so much help in so many places that I don't know what they "should" draft first. I am looking forward to the chess match that is their draft. It has to be productive-no second round Notre Dame DL busts this year-but I am going to put faith in Howie Mandell and the Fat Fella to do a quality job.

Boy, CJ Spiller would look great in green. Kid can flat out fly. Whoever gets him is getting a player.


7:58 PM EDT  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

Lots of rumors about Tebow. I don't see that one at all-does not seem like an Andy Reid QB.

here's an interesting notion. remember the eagles tried to trade up to get matt jones in the draft? at the time, everyone assumed they were going to make him a wideout like the jags did.

what if that was going to be big red's first flirtation with the "do-everything" qb and the spread offense? one complaint that i've had is that the eagles version of the "wildcat" isn't actually the wildcat. there is no motion with a running back taking a handoff at full speed. the eagles version is more like a straight spread option offense where the QB is the key.

jones -> vick -> and now tebow? seems like a pattern here. maybe andy really wants to implement this thing and is realizing that vick just doesn't pass or run well enough now to play it effectively?

just a thought.

7:49 AM EDT  
Blogger The Happy Apologist said...

TMG, you're missing the first link in your QB chain. Go back a bit further and who/what was McNabb his first 3 or 4 years? Solid passer and highly effective runner. Then Vick came along with a much higher top gear, however not nearly as effective as a passer.

So I don't that Reid's necessarily trying to find the perfect spread QB as he is trying to find the younger McNabb.

6:19 PM EDT  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

So I don't that Reid's necessarily trying to find the perfect spread QB as he is trying to find the younger McNabb.

the drafting of kolb with what amounts to a first round pick doesn't quite fit into that theory though.

i'm starting to believe that reid really would like to move to a 2 qb system. he wants an offense that gives the defense lots of things to "prepare for" and having two different styles of offenses mixed together gives him much more flexibility for game planning. (at least he publicly postures that way)

i guess we'll find out if they draft tebow :)

7:34 PM EDT  
Blogger The Happy Apologist said...

True. I think he's done with the spread offense thing though. I bet he takes a look at all the 2009 tape, adds up how productive the plays were, and tosses it in the trash heap. 1 or 2 big plays out of the hundred or so they ran just doesn't add up considering how explosive they were otherwise.

Watch him take McCoy if he slips to late round 1.

9:31 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it sort of interesting that some folks just write off the wildcat. They had some huge plays out of that and once Vick hit his stride, they became extremely difficult to defend. I saw the second Giants game, it was unstoppable. In addition, didn't Vick toss a 70 yard laser TD vs. Dallas in the playoffs out of the Cat? The only such TD thrown that day by Birds QB?

I honestly think that dog lovers cannot get over Vick's past transgressions, and refuse to acknowledge that he could add some value to this team. I actually think the hole they have in the Cat is the QB who moves to WR. Don clearly never wanted to share any spotlight (imagine him, pouting) and did very little to help this advance. Maybe Kevin has the ability to do what it takes to help the team.

I like Tebow as an H Back/Wildcat/hybrid, but as a 3rd round pick, no higher.


11:31 PM EDT  
Blogger The Happy Apologist said...

Bumble, are you kidding me? I could care less how many dogs Vick killed and/or raped. He effing sucked! The Eagles version of the Wildcat was awful!

No, that's not strong enough. AWFUL!!!!!!!

You're talking about 1 play vs. the 50 others that went 1 and done. Those are the plays that should have gone to DeSean who was getting 12-15 yards per reception off a normal play.

Bumble, I seriously did NOT hear you clamoring for more wildcat plays during the season. Or do you remember only the last play that was run?

7:56 PM EDT  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

The Eagles version of the Wildcat was awful!

No, that's not strong enough. AWFUL!!!!!!!

i believe the eagles averaged about7 yards per play in the wildcat. considering that's about the level that a successful passing game averages, the wildcat seems to have been a rousing success (statistically if not aesthetically).

8:44 PM EDT  
Blogger The Mean Guy said...

keep in mind that the wildcat is a mixture of pass and run. in a traditional offense with a 50-50 mix of run and pass, a successful offense would average about 5.5 yards per play (7 passing, 4 running).

NOTE: i'm not advocating for the continued use of the wildcat, just noting that it was more effective than people are remembering.

8:47 PM EDT  
Blogger The Happy Apologist said...

Where did you get that 7 yards number from? I haven't seen that anywhere and that's much, much, much higher than I remember them getting.

If your 7 yards # is correct, then I'm willing to revise my opinion as your passing/rushing math it spot on.

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