McNabb to the Redskins
This is a more heart wrenching loss than 36 to me. McNabb has been the best Eagles quarterback that I've ever seen. He's always seemed like a classy guy and I'm disappointed he couldn't finish his career here. I wish him all the best luck. Hopefully, the DC fans will treat him better than Philly ever did. I wonder how long it'll take for most fans to realize what we've just lost?
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posted by Chasing10K at 9:25 PM
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I hate this notion that Philly fans treated him bad. That is baloney! Absolute baloney. He was a hyper sensitive guy who failed to connect with the fans. He won a lot of games, but he lost just as many big games and often came up small in big spots. It is what it is-the town will only tolerate "almost" for so long. Once the Phils made the commitment to winning, it put a lot of heat on the other side of Broad and unfortunately, it all starts with the trigger man. They talk about gold standard and they've been a lesser metal at best. The front office drew a huge target on Don and fans associated him with the continued failures of this team.
Are we awful fans for being upset when he lobs balls at people's feet, or laughs off a crucial mistake at a core juncture of the game, or fails to audible in his entire tenure, or claims he needs weapons and then gets them only to put up goose eggs vs. a hated division rival two weeks in a row to end the season, or the fact that he likes to wear the woe is me mantle at all times? The guy was a good player, probably the best QB we have ever had, but it was time to move on for him and for those of us tired of riding the same merry go round year after year. No hard feelings, I hope he does OK in DC, but I need to see something different after at least the past 5 years of the same.
Now this move is very curious. How do you trade him to a divisional rival where you'll see him twice a year? Either there was no market for him or the Birds thought so little of him that they broke an unspoken cardinal rule. i will say this, I have a great friend who is a Skins fan and she and everyone she knows is furious about this. They have long viewed him as vastly over-rated and now they're stuck with his baggage vs. going young with a Bradford. McNabb is no mentor, so if the Skins took him to mentor Bradford, bad move.
I can't wait to hear everyone echo the "we didn't know how good we had it" you posited. I knew exactly what we had-a decent QB who struggled in big spots and was never going to take us over the top. Maybe Kolb won't either, but I couldn't subscribe to the insanity of bringing him back and doing the same thing again next year.
Bumble
I don't think trading him to the Skins is that bad. 1st, the other teams that we were talking to about him (Oak, Buf) were non-starters for McNabb. 2nd, everyone is boosting up Shanahan, but you're throwing McNabb (now 34 and always brittle) into a new system, new coach, new players. They don't have great receivers, and no O-line (I even say that knowing what 5 had to work with here) I just don't see them as being contenders.
Now, does that mean we will be? Doubtful. Not in Kolb's 1st year. Next year, I think the Eagle's could be a great team. And I still look forward to seeing the development of the new players. Being there at their beginning should be fun. Guys, look. Even with what they've done, I don't think we're going back to 3-13, and for that, I'm still happy.
- Joe
I've never claimed that McNabb was perfect, but he was far closer to perfect than the alternative. Look at it this way: Over the past 10 years there is only 2 QBs who were clearly superior to him (Brady, Manning). Several that were on par with him for most of the 10 years (Farve, Warner, Rothlesberger, Palmer, Hasslebeck) and several that were better than him for shorter periods of time (Brees, Rivers, etc).
So let's say McNabb was the bottom of that barrel. You're talking about the 10th best QB over the past 10 years when there's probably been 100-120 starting QBs in the league and maybe 25-30 truly franchise QBs.
For the amount of flack that he's gotten (you've named most of his faults), he's turned out very well. You crucify him for not winning a SB yet revere Cunningham who never even won a playoff game in Philly.
I thought Cunningham was garbage, incidentally. Great in Tecmo Bowl II and unintentionally funny, but not a good NFL QB. I didn't watch Buddy teams to watch them play offense.
Don had a nice little career in Philly, but all things come to pass and it was time to turn the page. They are full bore rebuilding at this point, so why keep him and get nothing for him? They had to make this move.
And we won't agree that he was far closer to perfect than the alternative as none of us can really say that now given the tiny sample set of Kolb's work. I am not sold that Kolb will be an elite QB, but I am sure that McNabb is no longer elite. Call him perfection or wonderful or whatever, the guy sucked in the clutch. At the end of the day, when you strip away excuses of no WR or no running game and provide those weapons, he doesn't find a way to make the biggest plays in the biggest situations. Let's see if Kolb does. probably not, but let's see.
Bumble
I'm actually not against this trade. I guess the difference between me and everyone else is that it wasn't his performance on the field that supports this, but the fact he has been injured so much. It's tough on the offense to break in a new QB for 2 games every year cause your starter goes down so often.
And if you think 5's seen his best, why not trade him within the division? McNabb's a consummate professional and has always given 110%. I doubt he'll play better just because he wants to stick it to Reid/Banner.
I've been thinking, and outside of his first draft, this is Reid's most important draft ever. His actions in the off season indicate a full blown retooling. His words say no, but those of us who follow the team and the division know better. The fans will tolerate a step back provided he doesn't muck up this draft and do something stupid like waste a second round pick on the like of Trevor Laws, Quinton Caver, Matt McCoy, etc. He has to leave this draft with 4 bona fide defensive players who can contribute to this team.
Bumble
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I am all for this plan. If you get decent defensive players....especially a FS...depth for the OL....I am all for change. What's the over/under on how long Don gets before the DC faithful lose the faith...I saw 6 games.
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