Comparing Feeley and Garcia
lost in the ongoing mcnabb/feeley debate is what appears to be another good personnel decision by eagles management -- choosing to keep aj feeley over jeff garcia.
when donovan went down last season, the eagles completely changed their offense and became a run first offense centered around brian westbrook, i believe, based on limitations in garcia's arm strength and inclination. with feeley at the helm, andy seems to have kept his pass first philosophy in place. while aj doesn't have donovan's arm strength, he does seem to be able to make most of the throws and doesn't seem shy about sticking the ball into tight places.
jeff is not a gunslinger by nature and checks down to running backs more than any worst coast offense qb i've seen. from what i've read, garcia's reluctance to pull the trigger on downfield balls was one of the primary issues me-o had with garcia.
it's hard to tell since i wasn't at the game (and it's only one game), but aj doesn't seem to leave as many plays on the field as jeff did. one thing is for sure, he's certainly a lot more aggressive than the careful kid we saw in his first go round with the birds.
last season, feeley was an afterthought among eagles fans, who were too glad to have a real, live professional backup qb in jeff garcia after years of neckbeard playing the role. grateful at his decent performance in the second half of last season, eagles nation clamored for the team to resign him. the eagles, on the other hand, showed little, if any, interest in bringing him back. conspiracy theorists and angelo cataldi's of the world claimed it had something to do with mcnabb. as it turns out, it may have had a lot to do with feeley just being the better qb. in fact i wonder, given just how little interest the birds had in resigning jeff this season (remember he was publicly begging the eagles to make him any sort of contract offer), if they'd have even looked at him at all last season if they knew that feeley was going to be cut by the chargers.
when donovan went down last season, the eagles completely changed their offense and became a run first offense centered around brian westbrook, i believe, based on limitations in garcia's arm strength and inclination. with feeley at the helm, andy seems to have kept his pass first philosophy in place. while aj doesn't have donovan's arm strength, he does seem to be able to make most of the throws and doesn't seem shy about sticking the ball into tight places.
jeff is not a gunslinger by nature and checks down to running backs more than any worst coast offense qb i've seen. from what i've read, garcia's reluctance to pull the trigger on downfield balls was one of the primary issues me-o had with garcia.
it's hard to tell since i wasn't at the game (and it's only one game), but aj doesn't seem to leave as many plays on the field as jeff did. one thing is for sure, he's certainly a lot more aggressive than the careful kid we saw in his first go round with the birds.
last season, feeley was an afterthought among eagles fans, who were too glad to have a real, live professional backup qb in jeff garcia after years of neckbeard playing the role. grateful at his decent performance in the second half of last season, eagles nation clamored for the team to resign him. the eagles, on the other hand, showed little, if any, interest in bringing him back. conspiracy theorists and angelo cataldi's of the world claimed it had something to do with mcnabb. as it turns out, it may have had a lot to do with feeley just being the better qb. in fact i wonder, given just how little interest the birds had in resigning jeff this season (remember he was publicly begging the eagles to make him any sort of contract offer), if they'd have even looked at him at all last season if they knew that feeley was going to be cut by the chargers.
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posted by The Mean Guy at 9:16 PM
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Feeley has better arm and balls than Garcia, but a ten cent head. he makes some very poor decisions with the ball and tosses a lot of picks in bad places. I am not sure who I'd rather have, but AJ is very limited. Yes, he played a good game at times the other night and ran the offense well, but I have to believe that if teams were game planning to stop him, they could.
In the end, I'd prefer Don, but not in this crap offense. A weak-armed guy like Garcia or Feeley is fine in the worst coast, but they will never win the big one.
Bumble
In the end, I'd prefer Don, but not in this crap offense. A weak-armed guy like Garcia or Feeley is fine in the worst coast, but they will never win the big one.
agree. this is one of the reasons why my ideal situation is to have andy keep GM duties (he's a good drafter) but yield coaching duties to someone who would operate a power running/long passing offense.
the single biggest question for me continues to be: will donovan ever be the player he once was.
for whatever reason, he's playing horribly, and with his ankle and thumb injuries, this is the 3rd year in a row he's missed time due to injury.
I think y'all are wishing for the impossible. There's no way the Eagles go to a power running/long passing offense as long as Reid is involved with this team. You honestly think he'd hire a coach as the GM that expoused that philosophy? Can I smoke some of that when you're done?
Frankly, I'm still surprised most people here hate Reid's version of the worst coast offense given how succefful it's been. The issue has been their devaluation of the WR position, not the system itself. People call Martz an O genius, however you think he'd have been half as successful if his WRs hadn't been Holt/Bruce and Williams/Johnson?
5 is not the problem. Feeley/Kolb is not the solution. Getting a stud WR is the solution to any and all problems associated with this offense.
Solution #2 is finding the heir apparent to 36 who is close to if not at his peak. We should be more worried about this than the QB position in my opinion.
I think y'all are wishing for the impossible. There's no way the Eagles go to a power running/long passing offense as long as Reid is involved with this team. You honestly think he'd hire a coach as the GM that expoused that philosophy? Can I smoke some of that when you're done?
i know there's no shot of it actually happening... but it doesn't hurt dream :)
well at least we dont have a fucking qb controversy anymore. fuckin a.
Exactly.
today was aweful
Just aweful.
- Joe
oh yeah, that was me dan naylor posting earlier.
my comments stand.
In Feeley's defense, if heather mitts dumped me I might not have mojo anymore. Then agian, since she also boned Pat Burrell, he should be happy he doesnt have herpes.
I know the whole team played like ass today, but I still need to lay this loss mostly on Reid. What hell kind of shit-ass playcalling was that ??! The weather alone dictated run, run, run. Buck busts a 30 yard TD run in the 1st quarter and is rewarded with only 3 more carries the rest of the game ?? Goal line offense, 2 tight ends, power I formation ?? Jack-ass, spread-em out in that situation. B-west is NOT Leroy Hoard. Fine if you want to run up the middle, but at least make it look like MAYBE that's not what you're doing. And your backup QB is out there pretending he's Tom Brady throwing into double coverage thinking that Randy Moss will probably come down with it anyway. Well, Randy might....but Curtis, Brown and Lewis are not him.
I only feel bad for Westbrook - he's a top 5 player in this league, busts it every week, yet they can't win unless he makes great plays AND finishes them himself. 64 yard punt return with less then 2 minutes left. And they can't get it in from the 14 yard line. I guess it's his fault that it wasn't a 78 yard return.
Fu** these guys !!!!!!!!!!!!
Captain
agreed Cap. I was unfortunately there today to see that shitfest first hand. I won't lay blame on Reid for this one-yes he threw a lot, but they scored a ton of points and generally kept Seattle off balance. It wasn't Reid's fault that his QB threw 4 terrible INT in 4 inopportune times. Lots to dislike, but the few that stood out to me.
1. Feeley is a backup and nothing more. His arm is weak and he makes terrible decisions. The Birds desperately need to find a QB because they have none on the roster right now. McNabb is Mchurt, Feeley sucks, and Kolb will suck a while before he gets it. I guess we move on to Kolb now, but that's a lot of sucking to expect.
2. Lito is really an average at best NFL CB. I think we have over-valued him due to some athletic interception returns. He gets burned all day by every receiver and he gives a 10 yard cushion to everyone and is a guaranted completion in the 3 step drop. They need to upgrade at DB.
3. JJ follows a great game plan at New England with this mess. No blitzes vs. an immobile QB, no mixing it up vs. the run, odd substitution patterns. Weak.
4. Never, ever, ever give points away. You cannot go for it on 4th and 1 at the end of the first. Take the 3 and go to the locker room with momentum. If they take the charity 3 there, then you don't leave the game in Feeley's hands in the end. The play call on 4th and 1 was unimaginative and every person in the stadium knew it was coming. Tatupu (who is waaaaaaaay better than any Eagle defender by the by) snuffed that for a 2 yard loss before B Wes even had the ball. The O line should be ashamed of how they blocked on that goal line drive.
They suck. It is reality. they will probably suck again next year because they have iffy talent, older players at key positions, a stale offensive and defensive game plan, and a QB issue. I guess we need to get used to disappointment like this, because we'll see more of it for some time to come. Ugggh!
Bumble
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